Does anyone else agree that Anthea Turner and Vanessa Feltz are nothing but big drips?  What on earth could reduce someone to tears about being locked in a house with a few other celebs for a week?  Vanessa cracked up after a few days, Anthea was balling her eyes out on the first night, and now Anthea nominated the two remaining lads out because "I don't want to sleep on my own.".  Do you think that a lot of these celebs are basically very weak personalities deep down? 

Feltz can't even do her own hair!

Messages 2 and 3 are missing

Well Karl, you were wrong, it was that miserable grouch Jack Dee who stole the show.  I walked into the newsagents today and the radio was blaring away (another item for the 'gob off' site?) and it said that Claire was seen out this week at a nightclub with Keith.......so much for him missing his wife! 

As regards Vanessa Feltz she was on Jonathan Ross's show on radio 2 on Saturday morning.  He certainly gave her some stick about her behaviour and writing all over the table with the chalk.  She reckoned that a lot of people thought that was all normal until old Woss told her that people would say that to her face and they saying something very different behind her back.

Still I guess it kept us amused for a while.

Anyway did you see Raw Spice last night.....I think they certainly got the title right....no wonder they didn't want it shown.  Lots of spots, naff dress sense, bitching and little else!  Still made for fun entertainment on a dull dark evening!

I did see Raw Spice (soon to be Old Spice), but have you seen how gorgeous Geri Hanniwell is looking these days?  A far cry from that spotty teenager.  And have you also seen Emma Bunton's latest video? Wow?  My wife likes Butch Spice's music - in fact I bought her the album "Northern Star" for Christmas.  That one line, "I couldn't live without my phone, but they haven't even got a home," tends to put things in perspective a bit.  Miserable Spice and Beckham Spice don't really seem to be doing too much these days.

Talking about putting things in perspective, when the bloke from Boys Life or West Zone or whatever was interviewed by Grahan Norton (another tosser), he made the point that none of the viewers had any idea how tough it was for all of them in the house. "Hear hear," agreed Davina McCall.  We were then shown a shot of Davina walking around a poverty-striken village in Africa that had no water supply or sewage system.  She was crying.  Still, it must reallly have been tough in that house.

Strange how the perspective changes with the point of view

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks Norton is a complete tosser!  My wife thinks he's very funny and can't understand why I don't like him.  Is it a gender thing?  I personally don't think so, but maybe it's just his smutty camp inuendo (Ooh er missus!) that pisses me off.  Hey, I've slipped into Gob Off mode again.  Perhaps every subject on this site should be subtitled "Also Gob-Off Time".  Do all gay comedians only do camp sex jokes a la Norton / Clary? Surely it's just schoolboy humour at it's worst, what's the appeal? Anyone?

Sorry guys but your obviously not in touch(?) with your feminine sides.  I like Graham Norton, I find him a bit of fun on a Friday night after a hard week at work.  Yes he is smutty and sometimes I sit there with a cushion in front of my face when I cannot bear to watch any longer.  I don't now what it is but my observations are that women tend to be less offended by camp gay guys. 

Speaking of gay guys have you noticed that Elton John is starting to look more and more like your old granny? and why is it now that whenever you open a certain type of magazine you have a picture of "Sir Elton John and his partner David Furnish".  Who is David Furnish and what is his contribution to life other than being Granny Elton's bodywarmer?  Whoops I think I've gone off into 'Gob off' time now.

Final comment, Yes I do think Ms Halliwell is looking in good shape, but do I have to see it splashed across so many magazines and newspapers. I think not!

Elton John has a new Union Jack ring, and in a recent chat show where she shared guest spot with him, Joan Collins mentioned that, "Elton's always had good taste in rings." Frueden slip or what?

Talking of celebrities, does anyone else agree with me that while Chris Tarrent is an excellent "Millionaire" host, he is an absolutely crap DJ?  All he does is chitter-chatter chitter-chatter.  I found myself bombing round the M25 at 12 M.P.H. shouting, "For F....'s sake, play some bloody music, will you?"

I agree with your summation of Tarrant's DJ ability, however the only two things I liked that he did were TisWas and OTT.  Totally childish (even the adult OTT) and appealed to my sense of humour.  Millionaire tends to annoy me because he keeps on stretching the suspense beyond reasonable limits.  It was OK the first time I saw him, now it just Pisses Me Off!  (That and the fact that I know half the questions easily, but I know that if I was on the show I would get the other half to answer!)

As far as morning DJ's go, I listen to the Ginger Whinger on Virgin.  He's been playing a version of a song by Shaggy (not the Scooby Doo character but some rap artist my kids know all about), anyway this version is entirley about him being caught by his mother "Playing one handed" in the bathroom.  It's the funniest mickey take song I've heard in ages.  Last time playing it on air sometime tomorrow morning (Friday 6 April).

There are times when I have to admit I get fed up with Evans on the radio, but most of the time he cracks me up.  The big plus is he plays more of my type of music than any other station, especially at that time of the morning. (I'm currently commuting to Maidenhead from Edgware so I spend about an hour and a half in the car morning and evening, just queueing and listening to the radio).

Bob,

just a thought for "Who wants to be a Millionaire" why worry about not answering all the questions, at least if you got to £32,000 and then said bye bye it would be worth it!  Anyway here's a thought, why is it that the phone a friend is always in, never engaged and is never that suprised to hear from Chris Tarrant, never has the TV or any other background noise going on?  You don't think they happen to be sitting in the studio somewhere????   surely not!

Pennie, you're not suggesting that a TV program as popular as "Millionaire" could be fixed are you? Good grief, I never thought of THAT! (Heavy irony).  Actually ever since ITV managed to give away a Million pounds to someone who is a friend of Camilla's, and who had ties to the organisers of the show, and given the fact that the questions were apparently the same ones that were asked in an earlier quiz show that same day, I've been convinced that the show can and has been fixed previously, and probably will be again.  Actually I'm not sure that the Lottery isn't fixed!  Since Camelot won the franchise again over the much better Branson bid after One New person was placed on the committee overseeing the franchise bid, (which committee had previously been entirely behind the Branson bid!) I'm convinced there's been bribery and corruption throughout.  Wherever there's money available in large amounts there will be people who are willing and able to divert the funds to their advantage.  The construction and running of the Dome proved that as well.  I subscribe very heavily to the conspiracy theory (all of them!).  I mean, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!

you'll tell me you are a fan of X files next! (I am one) I am always interested in things like the conspiracy theory, the Illuminati and the Knights Templar.  Maybe its something they did to us at Downer in one of those lessons where you came out and couldn't remember anything?

Pennie, yes of course I'm an X-files fan.  And what do you mean by "one of those lessons when you came out and couldn't remember anything" I thought they were all like that!

I'm convinced that there are all sorts of "conspiracies", by this I mean various groups of people who have private agendae and who by dint of money/power/influence etc. strive to change the world (or their corner thereof) to either their benefit above all others, or to our detriment for whatever reasons.  I don't object to people trying to do this out in the open, at least we have a chance to try and do something about it, but I resent the "behind the scenes" manipulations which end up affecting all our lives with no chance of us affecting the outcome (or even being given the opportunity to voice our disapproval).  I also realise that these machinations are going to go on regardless of my opinion on the matter, but I'm sure if enough "ordinary" people decided to do something about those who abuse power and position we could change the way things are.  Unfortunately I'm not in much of a position to do anything about it, apart of course from bending everyone's ear on the matter whenever I can.  The reality is of course that everyone is so tied up in day to day survival that no-one but the rich and powerful have time or resources to do anything about any it, and they of course tend to have their own private agendae and who by dint of money/power/influence........Whoa!!  Deja Vu!

If we all agree on the conspiracy theory then let's use it to our advantage by forming a kind of ex-downerites group (similar to the Masons) whereby we put business each other's way.  The Jews have done it for years, the Chamber of Commerce helps other members in a similar fashion, we should be doing likewise.

Excellent idea Karl, and one I know we have both tried to kindle before, let's hope it takes hold this time!  The added bonus of course for someone like me is that then I become a member of a "conspiracy group" and can't complain about the other conspiracies out there.  Oh No!, now who am I going to blame?

I'm all for our own group, assuming of course its not a mens only club? What are the rules of membership?, are we into rolling up one of our trouser legs and wearing a leather apron.  One things for sure we need to move out of big celebrity spot to progress this conversation.

Karl, how's Montana? are you on a ranch or are you taking in the sights.  Its not a part I've been to but is on my list of places to go.  I suggest you give us an edited highlights on your return. Lets start a new topic. Reader's holidays!

Replying ever so quickly as I'm just flying off to Chicago.

Pennie, with those legs any time you wish to roll up your trousers is fine.  Any time the urge strikes you to wear leather (aprons or otherwise) in front of me will also get my approval.

The subject of "Reader's Holidays" is probably best covered in the discussion "Holidays", to be found half way down the page on the message board.  I will add my comments upon return.

I agree that the idea of a "conspiracy group" should be discussed in a new format, although "conspiracy group" is probably a less than desirable name.

Karl,

Say hello to Jake and Ellwood in Chicago for me!

With all your talk of legs and leather it's more like "Readers Wives" than "Readers Holidays". (No offence Pennie).

If "Conspiracy Group" is too much, (and I think "Self-help Group" is too wimpy-trendy-lefty-pinko-commie,) what about a list of Goods and/or Services that can be offered by participants in this site at, say, discounted rates to fellow members?  I offer my meagre services as accountant at a discount rate to any one who may be interested.  (Not just an advert, I already have enough work, but I'd rather work for common interest than for strangers, even at a reduced rate.)  Over to you lot.